Comments on: GitS: The Coming Abomination (in 3-D!)

By: Calvin Spealman

Calvin Spealman — Mon, 12 May 2008 12:40:37 +0000

I can deal with Dreamworks picking this up, but I haven’t trusted Spielburg with a camera for years.

By: Ycros

Ycros — Mon, 21 Apr 2008 15:04:41 +0000

I agree with everything you said, except that I really enjoyed Innocence.

By: Mike Pirnat

Mike Pirnat — Sat, 19 Apr 2008 01:18:08 +0000

@doug: Didn’t JMS already do that with season 5?

By: florian

florian — Fri, 18 Apr 2008 07:38:44 +0000

@Jim
I don’t know where you get your optimism from in the face of an industry that produces sheer mediocrity as a 95% rule.

You know, saying what you say, it’s a bit like saying EA is going to produce (inhouse) a GitS game, and it’s going to totally rock…

brruwaahahahaha aka get real.

By: Jim Dorey

Jim Dorey — Thu, 17 Apr 2008 17:04:49 +0000

I disagree. Spielberg will do a helluva job and he is cutting his teeth with 3D on “Tintin”. GitS 3D will not suck at all and will bury other live action attempts like Aeon Flux.

Spielberg is watching James Cameron CLOSELY who is now doing “Avatar” but will soon be doing “Battle Angel” both are in 3D. Those two will knock the kinks out of live action manga and come up with wonderful adaptions that WILL introduce millions to the genre. You should be happy about that I would think…

Anyway, you can read more about it here:
http://marketsaw.blogspot.com/2008/04/theres-new-epic-in-town-spielberg-buys.html

Best,
-jim

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By: Florian

Florian — Thu, 17 Apr 2008 16:00:30 +0000

R.I.P GitS

Complete utter butcheries out of the Dreamworks/Spielberg corner include but are are not limited to:
- Memoires of a Geisha
- AI (losly based on a lot of Asimovs work)
- Minority Report (Do Robots Dream of Electric Sheep)
- The Time Machine

By: doug

doug — Thu, 17 Apr 2008 13:37:31 +0000

@Mike:

I will need to give the new Appleseed movie another chance then. These days I have very limited time and as such I find myself turning things off when I never would have in the past. I just do not have time for bad movies, tv, or books.

I agree the manga was brilliant and much better than the movie, but that is true of most transitions like that.

As for Live Action EVA, that went on hold in 2005 (thankfully) and never went anywhere. It was being produces by ADV Films which has now gotten out of doing even doing their US DVD distribution of translated anime, preferring to do pay-per-view, an all anime cable channel, and an anime-only itunes like thingie.

I think the problem with Innocence was a combination between the director and a very weak choice of plot. If the story was good enough it could have survived the bad directing. It was a beautiful movie in appearance, but the transitions, motion, and overall flow were jarring at best. Combine that with a lack of anything interesting to watch except the ‘pretty pictures’ and there is not much to save.

@gh:

Ok, the original Appleseed was not the best, and it was not as good as the manga, but for its time it was a fantastic movie. Maybe I just have my rose colored glasses on, having seen it when it first came out (student subbed at the Avon in RI). I saw it again recently and thought it held up quite well.

My problem is that the story is told. It’s not a dead end. It is just done. Beginning middle and end. True it could be another ‘Battlestar’ or ‘Ah My Goddess!’, but more likely it is going to be a ‘Highlander 5′ or a ‘Grinch’ or ‘Cat in the Hat’, or ‘KoR: Summers Beginning’.

If someone told you Lucas Arts bought the rights to ‘Babylon 5′ and were going to produce a ‘re-envisioning’ of the story with all new people, lightsabers and in 3-D, would you be excited?

By: gh

gh — Thu, 17 Apr 2008 11:54:17 +0000

aawww come on – the original appleseed SUCKED – you can’t compare that piece of crap to the remake. sure, it had some novel ideas and all – but it looked just awful.

as for the gits acquisition – what you say is quite contradictory – if you see the franchise as a dead end, why does a remake bothers you? makes no sense.

By: Mike Pirnat

Mike Pirnat — Thu, 17 Apr 2008 10:53:37 +0000

Do you think the issues with GitS:Innocence are Shirow’s fault (the story’s only “loosely connected” to a part of the original manga, which again was way better than even the first GitS film), or Oshii’s (who directed both GitS films)?

By: Mike Pirnat

Mike Pirnat — Thu, 17 Apr 2008 10:48:49 +0000

I actually strongly preferred the 2005 3D mo-cap Appleseed anime to the old OVA, which always felt too clunky, inelegant, and just plain “light” compared to the manga. (I had a serious obsession with the manga back in high school; I even went by “appleseed” online at the time.) I’ll agree that for about the first 15 minutes I was a little iffy about the new version–the opening sequence was kind of arbitrary, and the music wasn’t the best of what’s in the film–but once it gets going it’s so much better. You probably shut it off right before it transitioned from “gosh this looks like it’s going to really suck” mode into “hey this could be all right” territory, and if you stick with it, it occasionally enters a solid “kick ass” zone. It’s much truer to the manga characters and stories than the old OVA ever was. Consider giving it a second chance.

That said, the live action Dreamworks version is sure to be an abomination. But I’ll probably see it anyway.

(And wasn’t there a live action Evangelion movie in the works at one point? I’m deeply fearful of that too, but some of the concept art from WETA looked realllly good…)