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	<title>Comments on: Google App Engine: The good, the bad, and the ugly?</title>
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	<description>the truth according to Doug</description>
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		<title>By: doug</title>
		<link>http://dougma.com/archives/84/comment-page-1#comment-741</link>
		<dc:creator>doug</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 May 2009 22:44:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@magallanes

I suspect there is a language barrier here. What exactly do you mean by &#039;webservice&#039;? The point of GAE is to have you deploy your web APP. It is not about you providing web hosting to others. With that said you can write an &#039;APP&#039; which people whom are logged in can create a web page for them selves. People have done that. But that is a far cry from web hosting. If you are talking about systems where you write something which provides and API (REST or otherwise) for other sites to use... that is the #1 use of GAE. There is no documentation specificly for that because the GAE documentation IS documentation for that type of web service.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@magallanes</p>
<p>I suspect there is a language barrier here. What exactly do you mean by &#8216;webservice&#8217;? The point of GAE is to have you deploy your web APP. It is not about you providing web hosting to others. With that said you can write an &#8216;APP&#8217; which people whom are logged in can create a web page for them selves. People have done that. But that is a far cry from web hosting. If you are talking about systems where you write something which provides and API (REST or otherwise) for other sites to use&#8230; that is the #1 use of GAE. There is no documentation specificly for that because the GAE documentation IS documentation for that type of web service.</p>
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		<title>By: magallanes</title>
		<link>http://dougma.com/archives/84/comment-page-1#comment-740</link>
		<dc:creator>magallanes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 May 2009 17:34:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi there:

May be this reply is a bit later but... anyways.

Google App Engine now support Java (yay?) but currently is in beta so we are still stick on Python. 
I must admit, i don&#039;t have any experience with python but i still manage to do some stuffs.  But i tried to do some worthy, a single and common task :a webservice in phyton..  And SURPRISE!!... there are few information about GAE and webservice.  How strange?. because the &quot;raison d&#039;etre&quot; of GAE is to create service. In any case, is not native, neither easy to create a single webservice.  weird.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi there:</p>
<p>May be this reply is a bit later but&#8230; anyways.</p>
<p>Google App Engine now support Java (yay?) but currently is in beta so we are still stick on Python.<br />
I must admit, i don&#8217;t have any experience with python but i still manage to do some stuffs.  But i tried to do some worthy, a single and common task :a webservice in phyton..  And SURPRISE!!&#8230; there are few information about GAE and webservice.  How strange?. because the &#8220;raison d&#8217;etre&#8221; of GAE is to create service. In any case, is not native, neither easy to create a single webservice.  weird.</p>
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		<title>By: Google App Engine limitations, and how to get around them &#124; Digitalistic - Mashup or die trying</title>
		<link>http://dougma.com/archives/84/comment-page-1#comment-240</link>
		<dc:creator>Google App Engine limitations, and how to get around them &#124; Digitalistic - Mashup or die trying</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Sep 2008 13:40:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] limitations There are more limitations, read  Google App Engine: The good, the bad, and the ugly? for a more detailed list. Just keep in mind that some of the limitations mentioned in that post [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] limitations There are more limitations, read  Google App Engine: The good, the bad, and the ugly? for a more detailed list. Just keep in mind that some of the limitations mentioned in that post [...]</p>
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		<title>By: systemsplanet.com</title>
		<link>http://dougma.com/archives/84/comment-page-1#comment-216</link>
		<dc:creator>systemsplanet.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2008 02:35:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>no https is a killer for me.
Any apps that handle sensitive info (like
personal info, ssn, credit card info, etc).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>no https is a killer for me.<br />
Any apps that handle sensitive info (like<br />
personal info, ssn, credit card info, etc).</p>
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		<title>By: William Vambenepe's blog</title>
		<link>http://dougma.com/archives/84/comment-page-1#comment-147</link>
		<dc:creator>William Vambenepe's blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 May 2008 22:51:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Google App Engine: less is more...&lt;/strong&gt;

&#8220;If you have a stove, a saucepan and a bottle of cold water, how can you make boiling water?&#8221;
If you ask this question to a mathematician, they&#8217;ll think about it a while, and finally tell you to pour the water in the saucepan, light u...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Google App Engine: less is more&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>&#8220;If you have a stove, a saucepan and a bottle of cold water, how can you make boiling water?&#8221;<br />
If you ask this question to a mathematician, they&#8217;ll think about it a while, and finally tell you to pour the water in the saucepan, light u&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Development, Eclipse, Google, Web and other forecasts &#171; Mantrid&#8217;s Weblog</title>
		<link>http://dougma.com/archives/84/comment-page-1#comment-137</link>
		<dc:creator>Development, Eclipse, Google, Web and other forecasts &#171; Mantrid&#8217;s Weblog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 10:45:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] look at Google App Engine. Emphasizes its distinctness from typical development enviroment. And another one worth [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] look at Google App Engine. Emphasizes its distinctness from typical development enviroment. And another one worth [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Gary</title>
		<link>http://dougma.com/archives/84/comment-page-1#comment-146</link>
		<dc:creator>Gary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Apr 2008 01:41:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post.  I agree on your points on PHP/Ruby/RoR.  I don&#039;t know Python, so this is as good a reason as any to start learning.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post.  I agree on your points on PHP/Ruby/RoR.  I don&#8217;t know Python, so this is as good a reason as any to start learning.</p>
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		<title>By: friarminor</title>
		<link>http://dougma.com/archives/84/comment-page-1#comment-144</link>
		<dc:creator>friarminor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Apr 2008 07:19:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For Google, it sure is a big start.  But I will be extremely surprised if they don&#039;t venture supporting Ruby on Rails and trample over upstarts such as &lt;a href=&quot;http://morphexchange.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Morph eXchange&lt;/a&gt; in that category.

But on the bright side, platform and on-demand deployments are really interesting..

Best.
alain</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For Google, it sure is a big start.  But I will be extremely surprised if they don&#8217;t venture supporting Ruby on Rails and trample over upstarts such as <a href="http://morphexchange.com" rel="nofollow">Morph eXchange</a> in that category.</p>
<p>But on the bright side, platform and on-demand deployments are really interesting..</p>
<p>Best.<br />
alain</p>
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		<title>By: Alex Martelli</title>
		<link>http://dougma.com/archives/84/comment-page-1#comment-143</link>
		<dc:creator>Alex Martelli</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Apr 2008 05:31:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent summary Doug -- I wish more than 1% of the posters had as much insight into the technical AND (indirectly) business issues of App Engine as you do...!-)

Alex</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent summary Doug &#8212; I wish more than 1% of the posters had as much insight into the technical AND (indirectly) business issues of App Engine as you do&#8230;!-)</p>
<p>Alex</p>
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		<title>By: sean</title>
		<link>http://dougma.com/archives/84/comment-page-1#comment-142</link>
		<dc:creator>sean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Apr 2008 04:55:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>google offers a platform that everybody could use, it saves much pain of setting up the environment if you just want to make a simple application.
not flexible enough for big companys, but it&#039;s good enough for individuals.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>google offers a platform that everybody could use, it saves much pain of setting up the environment if you just want to make a simple application.<br />
not flexible enough for big companys, but it&#8217;s good enough for individuals.</p>
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