Comments on: of Advocacy and Idiocy http://dougma.com/archives/12 the truth according to Doug Mon, 05 Sep 2011 01:44:41 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v= By: Stephan Deibel http://dougma.com/archives/12/comment-page-1#comment-8 Stephan Deibel Tue, 10 Apr 2007 20:35:39 +0000 http://www.dougma.com/?p=6#comment-8 Just wanted to note that PSF has renewed Jeff's contract (he actually started 6 months ago and is now continuing another 6 months). In the first six months, Jeff spent a great deal of time on PyCon, which is itself an important advocacy vehicle, and I attribute at least some of its phenomenal growth to his hard work. The revised task list for the next six months should give us some decent materials that we lack: http://www.python.org/psf/grants/advocacy/revised-tasks.pdf The focus now is really to support user groups and to get more advocacy content onto python.org. We're trying to stick to things that have not appeared by themselves in the community. However, please consider helping out by pitching in with content creation (contact Jeff to get started). Note also that the build system for python.org is being rewritten. The new build runs far faster than the old one and the toolset is much easier to install. This should make a big difference in keeping the site fresher. Please consider also pitching in with that (contact me at sdeibel@wingware.com to get started). BTW, I started the marketing-python mailing list and made the mistake of allowing a few jerks destroy it. I hope the Django and Turbogears folks learn that there are limits where such "discussion" should be squashed. It can have a long-standing effect, as we're still seeing in the Python community something like 5 years later. Just wanted to note that PSF has renewed Jeff’s contract (he actually started 6 months ago and is now continuing another 6 months). In the first six months, Jeff spent a great deal of time on PyCon, which is itself an important advocacy vehicle, and I attribute at least some of its phenomenal growth to his hard work. The revised task list for the next six months should give us some decent materials that we lack:

http://www.python.org/psf/grants/advocacy/revised-tasks.pdf

The focus now is really to support user groups and to get more advocacy content onto python.org. We’re trying to stick to things that have not appeared by themselves in the community. However, please consider helping out by pitching in with content creation (contact Jeff to get started).

Note also that the build system for python.org is being rewritten. The new build runs far faster than the old one and the toolset is much easier to install. This should make a big difference in keeping the site fresher. Please consider also pitching in with that (contact me at sdeibel@wingware.com to get started).

BTW, I started the marketing-python mailing list and made the mistake of allowing a few jerks destroy it. I hope the Django and Turbogears folks learn that there are limits where such “discussion” should be squashed. It can have a long-standing effect, as we’re still seeing in the Python community something like 5 years later.

]]> By: Michael Hudson http://dougma.com/archives/12/comment-page-1#comment-7 Michael Hudson Tue, 10 Apr 2007 17:21:37 +0000 http://www.dougma.com/?p=6#comment-7 I think part of the reason a lot of Python/PSF old timers get a bit wary about words like 'advocacy' is the utter, utter distasters that were the marketing-python and pydotorg-redesign mailing lists. I think the point you make about advocacy happening anyway and there been some need to coordinate it is valid and interesting, but just wanted to explain some of the reactions you got :-) I think part of the reason a lot of Python/PSF old timers get a bit wary about words like ‘advocacy’ is the utter, utter distasters that were the marketing-python and pydotorg-redesign mailing lists.

I think the point you make about advocacy happening anyway and there been some need to coordinate it is valid and interesting, but just wanted to explain some of the reactions you got :-)

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